Showing posts with label thyroid. Show all posts
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Wednesday, November 4, 2015
Too Much of a Good Thing - Iodine: 1 mg/day + Can be Bad for You, But the Dangers are as Individual as the Benefits
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| Seafood is an excellent source of iodine, but many people get most of their iodine from iodized table salt. |
Why's that? Well, if you took a look at the literature discussing the effects of iodine supplementation on thyroid function, you'd know why it was ... well, "complicated" and not exactly unambigous to say the least.
In view of the fact that it would go beyond the scope of any single article to discuss the detailed effects of iodine and iodine supplements in the various thyroid disease states, I will focus solely on the beneficial and detrimental effects of iodine in more or less healthy individuals. Furthermore, I will not go into details as far as...
the important role of iodine in brain and general physical development and the ~30% increase in iodine requirements in pregnant women (Delange. 2000; Zimmermann. 2004 & 2011),
Table 1: The spectrum of iodine deficiency disorders - click to see all (Delange. 1994) - the role of iodine in psychiatric disease (Hetzel. 2000), and
- the influence of (inorganic) iodine in the environment on human / general mammalian health (Fuge. 1987)
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| In the subjects who received more than 1mg of supplemental iodine thyroid size & function was reduced in less than 4 weeks (Sang. 2012). |
- goiter and thyroid hyperfunction being more prevalent among populations with low(er) iodine intakes, and
- impaired thyroid function (=subclinical and clinical hypothyroidism) being more prevalent among populations with relatively high iodine intakes (Lauerberg. 1998).
The Wolff-Chaikoff effect, a supposedly transient reduction in thyroid function occurs in response to increases in iodine intake and is mediated by a decrease intrathyroidal inorganic iodine uptake into the thyroid (it shuts off) by down regulation of the sodium iodine symporter (NIS). The effect is also supposed to save your thyroid from the assault of radioactive iodine particles in the case of a fallout. Therefore the same 1mg+ iodine tablets people consider a "health supplement" these days were considered a fallout emergency medication during Cold War (Zanzonico. 2000).
It is thus all the more important to take the little experimental evidence there is into consideration. In that, the often-seen drops in thyroid function in response to the ingestion of large quantities of iodine are often ascribed to the so-called Wolff-Chaikoff which is supposed to reduce the thyroid function for no longer than a few a days and then, through the so-called "escape" phenomenon, the organification of intrathyroidal iodide resumes and the normal synthesis of thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3) returns (Markou. 2001). Now, the problem is: The phenomenon is not always as short-lived as it is supposed to beEven if you believe you know you don't suffer from any of the aforementioned thyroid problems taking 10mg or more of iodine may be likened to Russian Thyroid Roulette, because it always entails the risk of iodide-induced hypothyroidism. Usually the hypothyroidism is transient and regresses within 2-3 weeks after iodide withdrawal, but as Markou et al. highlight there's a small subgroup of patients who develop transient iodine-induced hypothyroidism that must be followed long term thereafter because many will develop permanent primary hypothyroidism."in a few apparently normal individuals, in newborns and fetuses, in some patients with chronic systemic diseases, euthyroid patients with autoimmune thyroiditis, and Graves' disease patients previously treated with radioimmunoassay (RAI), surgery or antithyroid drugs, the escape from the inhibitory effect of large doses of iodides is not achieved and clinical or subclinical hypothyroidism ensues [and may require temporary or permanent treatment with thyroid medications]" (Markou. 2001).
Table 2: Taking high amounts of iodine can significantly reduce thyroid function or induce goiter. Specifically in the subgroups of the population mentioed above (Roti. 2000)
All in all the aforementioned examples are yet the exception to the rule. A rule which is evidenced in studies like Markou et al. (2000), in which the authors administered 80 mg potassium iodide (which is also the form of "iodine" in Lugol's solution) to 30 normal children 8 to 14 years old for 3 months and found that none developed overt or subclinical hypothyroidism. That does not mean that the iodine was without effect, but what the scientists observed was the expected transient elevation in serum TSH values (5–8 mU/L) as a result of the Wolff-Chaikoff effect. An effect that abated without further medical intervention on part of the researchers after 3-4 weeks when the TSH returned to normal levels despite the continuation of iodide treatment (Markou. 2000).
So what's the verdict? While it is possible to consume "too much of a good thing" for iodine, it is still not clear (a) how much too much is and (b) for whom this really is a problem. Assuming that you already have thyroid issues or you realize that something is wrong with your TSH, T3 or T4 values after starting to supplement with iodine, stop taking it - the evidence that there are real benefits of consuming iodine in the milligram-to-gram range on a daily basis is quasi non-existent, anyways and evidence of a linear or predictable positive relationship between the amount of iodine you consume and your metabolic rate is as non-existent as proven beneficial effects on the gut microbiome, iodine's ability to "flush out toxins" or the "potent anti-oxidant effects" you can read about on the Internet (in fact, high doses are pro-oxidant and may even have necrotic effects, meaning that the will kill cells - good or bad | Many. 1992; Denef. 1996).
That being said, the supply of iodine in the US diet is generally sufficient (Caldwell. 2011), only those groups who are unfortunately also most likely to get too little of other good stuff, i.e. those parts of the population who eat the most messed up diets appear at a small risk of not getting enough iodine on a daily basis. If you have kids or are planning to have kids, though, you may still want to screen your diet for adequate intakes which would be 90 mcg/day for children, 150 mcg/day for adults and 220 mcg/day (but not more than 300-400mcg) for pregnant and 290 mcg/day for lactating/breastfeeding women | Comment on Facebook!
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| Too Much of a Good Thing - Selenium: Little More Than in Many 'Multis' Can Trigger Subclinical Hypothyroidism, Less Cuts 13% Body Fat | more |
- Cann, Stephen A., Johannes P. van Netten, and Christiaan van Netten. "Hypothesis: iodine, selenium and the development of breast cancer." Cancer Causes & Control 11.2 (2000): 121-127.
- Caldwell, Kathleen L., et al. "Iodine status of the US population, National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 2005–2006 and 2007–2008." Thyroid 21.4 (2011): 419-427.
- Delange, François. "The disorders induced by iodine deficiency." Thyroid 4.1 (1994): 107-128.
- Delange, Francois. "The role of iodine in brain development." Proceedings of the nutrition society 59.01 (2000): 75-79.
- Denef, Jean-François, Marie-Christine Many, and M. F. van Den Hove. "Iodine-induced thyroid inhibition and cell necrosis: two consequences of the same free-radical mediated mechanism?." Molecular and cellular endocrinology 121.1 (1996): 101-103.
- Drinka, Paul J., and Wolfram E. Nolten. "Effects of iodinated glycerol on thyroid function studies in elderly nursing home residents." Journal of the American Geriatrics Society 36.10 (1988): 911-913.
- Fuge, R. "Iodine in the environment: its distribution and relationship to human health." Trace substances in environmental health-XXI. 1987.
- Funahashi, Hiroomi, et al. "Seaweed prevents breast cancer?." Cancer Science 92.5 (2001): 483-487.
- Hetzel, Basil S. "Iodine and neuropsychological development." The Journal of nutrition 130.2 (2000): 493S-495S.
- Hollowell, Joseph G., et al. "Serum TSH, T4, and thyroid antibodies in the United States population (1988 to 1994): National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III)." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 87.2 (2002): 489-499.
- Laurberg, Peter, et al. "Iodine intake and the pattern of thyroid disorders: a comparative epidemiological study of thyroid abnormalities in the elderly in Iceland and in Jutland, Denmark." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 83.3 (1998): 765-769.
- Many, Marie-Christine, et al. "In vitro study of acute toxic effects of high iodide doses in human thyroid follicles." Endocrinology 131.2 (1992): 621-630.
- Matsubayashi, Sunao, et al. "Iodine-induced hypothyroidism as a result of excessive intake of confectionery made with tangle weed, Kombu, used as a low calorie food during a bulimic period in a patient with anorexia nervosa." Eating and Weight Disorders-Studies on Anorexia, Bulimia and Obesity 3.1 (1998): 50-52.
- Markou, K., et al. "Effects of chronic iodide administration in thyroid function in children and adolescents with a history of transient congenital hypothyroidism." 27th Annual Meeting, Greek Endocrine Association, Nicosia Cyprus. Vol. 82. 2000.
- Roti, Elio, et al. "Iodine-Induced Hypothyroidism in Euthyroid Subjects with a Previous Episode of Subacute Thyroiditis*." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 70.6 (1990): 1581-1585.
- Roti, E., and A. G. Vagenakis. "Effect of excess iodide: clinical aspects." Werner and Ingbar’s The Thyroid–Braverman LE and Utiger RD. Ed, Lippincott (2000): 316-329.
- Sang, Zhongna, et al. "Exploration of the safe upper level of iodine intake in euthyroid Chinese adults: a randomized double-blind trial." The American journal of clinical nutrition 95.2 (2012): 367-373.
- Zanzonico, Pat B., and David V. Becker. "Effects of time of administration and dietary iodine levels on potassium iodide (KI) blockade of thyroid irradiation by 131I from radioactive fallout." Health Physics 78.6 (2000): 660-667.
- Zimmermann, M., and F. Delange. "Iodine supplementation of pregnant women in Europe: a review and recommendations." European Journal of Clinical Nutrition 58.7 (2004): 979-984.
- Zimmermann, Michael B. "The role of iodine in human growth and development." Seminars in cell & developmental biology. Vol. 22. No. 6. Academic Press, 2011.
Study Confirms: Excessive Green Tea Consumption (1-2L) May Reduce Your Thyroid Function (T3, T4) by Almost 50%
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| If you drink green tea 24/7 you don't have to wonder if your thyroid is sluggish and your belly growing. |
The authors, Abulfadle K. A., Bakhaat G. A., Shaik R. and Tantry B. A., studied the effect of excessive green tea intake on body weight and serum thyroid hormones in male mice and compared their results to what happens if the rodents are fed only fluoride and caffeine.
Overtraining puts you at a similar risk of low thyroid levels as tons of green tea
- Control (C) group (6 mice) receiving distilled water.
- Green tea (GT) treated group; 6 mice were given a 5 gm% tea hot water extract as their sole water supply (that's similar to you drinking 1-2 L or more).
- Fluoride (FL) treated group, 6 mice were given fluorine excess solution as their only water supply.
- Caffeine (Caf) treated group, 6 mice were treated with caffeine (6.25 mg/kg ip | that's only 0.51 mg/kg body weight for a human and thus not exactly much).
- Propylthiouracil (PTU) treated group, a substance of which we know that it interferes with the synthesis of thyroid hormone, 6 mice were treated with PTU (10 mg/kg ip).
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| Green tea triggers weight loss only in overweight subjects (Hase. 2001). |
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| Figure 2: TSH & T3 levels in rodents with green tea (G) or pure catechins (C) in their diets (Chandra. 2010). |
What we do know, at least, is that EGCG interacts with thyroid hormones. Kato et al. (2011), for example, found that it inhibits the effects of thyroid hormones on bone cells. In view of the fact that many studies which have observed ill effects of green tea catechins on the thyroid all used regular extracts which may contain both caffeine and fluoride (Sakamoto. 2001, we cannot tell whether EGCG, EC, ECG & co will have a negative effect on your thyroid health if they come in caffeine- + fluoride-free form. Luckily, Chandra et al (2010) must have foreseen this problem in their 2010 study in which they found that purified green tea catechins (no caffeine, no fluoride | C in Figure 2) have even more pronounced anti-thyroid effects than green tea extracts. The independent anti-thyroid effects of green tea catechins would also exlpain why previous studies show that the effect is sign. less pronounced for black tea extracts (Chandra. 2011) | Comment on FB.
- Abulfadle, Khaled Abdelfattah, et al. "Effect of Excessive Green Tea Versus Fluoride and Caffeine on Body Weight and Serum Thyroid Hormones in Male Mice." Journal of Physiology and Pharmacology Advances 5.2 (2015): 565-573.
- Chandra, Amar K., and Neela De. "Goitrogenic/antithyroidal potential of green tea extract in relation to catechin in rats." Food and Chemical Toxicology 48.8 (2010): 2304-2311.
- Chandra, Amar K., Neela De, and Shyamosree Roy Choudhury. "Effect of different doses of un-fractionated green and black tea extracts on thyroid physiology." Human & experimental toxicology 30.8 (2011): 884-896.
- Hase, Tadashi, et al. "Anti-obesity Effects of Tea Catechins in Humans [和文]." Journal of oleo science 50.7 (2001): 599-605.
- Kato, Kenji, et al. "(-)-Epigallocatechin gallate inhibits thyroid hormone‑stimulated osteocalcin synthesis in osteoblasts." Molecular medicine reports 4.2 (2011): 297-300.
- Sakamoto, Y., et al. "Goitrogenic effects of green tea extract catechins by dietary administration in rats." Archives of toxicology 75.10 (2001): 591-596.
- Wolfram, Swen, Ying Wang, and Frank Thielecke. "Anti‐obesity effects of green tea: From bedside to bench." Molecular nutrition & food research 50.2 (2006): 176-187.
TSH - A Critical Re-Evaluation of Its Non-Significance: Why Your TSH May Tell You Nothing About Your Thyroid Health
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| Symptoms of hypo- and hypothyroidism (figure from youngstershub.com) |
Normally, your hypothalamus should correct low levels of the two active thyroid hormone T3 and T4 by increasing TSH. This physiological up-and-down is what doctors use to diagnose hypo- and hyperthyroidism by measuring TSH and in many cases only TSH - text-book practice, but still questionable against the background of the latest science.
Yes, even though everybody knows that you cannot judge the speed of a car by measuring how far its driver pushed the gas pedal into the floor, TSH remains the most commonly used endocrine test in clinical practice, when it comes to testing thyroid function; and this is despite the fact that more and more scientists are questioning the use of TSH, in general, and the reference ranges in particular.
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| Figure 1: Prevalence of thyroid antibodies across TSH intervals in women (top) and men (Spencer. 2007). |
After all, there is also an argument that a highly significant number of patients (up to 30%) with TSH above 3.0 mU/L have an occult autoimmune thyroid disease that may remain undiagnosed (Spencer. 2007 | see Figure 1). The same goes for people with subclinical hypothyrodism, simply because textbooks still say that TSH was all you need to test the health of your patients' thyroid.
T4 alone may not be enough: In patients with actual thyroidism, the standard treatment with levothyroxine (T4) only may not fully resolve their problems. I've written about the benefits and often cited risks of a combination therapy with T3 + T4 before, which is why I am not going to go into detail here. If you think your thyroid treatment makes things worse, though, I suggest you read my 2013 article "(Mis-)Managing Hypothyroidism: 7% Reduction in Energy Expenditure & Fat Oxidation in Patients on Levothyroxin (T4) Mono Therapy. Plus: Alternative Dessicated Thyroid?"
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| Figure 2: High(er) rates of thyroid antibodies in non-frail vs. frail elderly women are suggestive of a protective effect of thyroid antibodies (Wang. 2010). |
Elderly patients (i.e. 70 plus years), on the other hand, may be falsely diagnosed with hypothyroidism due to age-related increase in TSH ranging to up to 6.0 mU/L - and that despite the fact that that there are no or irrelevantly small changes in free T3 and free T4. This is particularly important, because ill health effects as they are seen in young individuals are rare or non-existent in elderly patients with autoimmune thyroid diseases nor hypothyroidism.
Rather than being detrimental, a 2010 study by Wang et al., which found that elderly subjects with raised titres of thyroid autoantibodies are less frail than age-matched peers (see Figure 2), suggests that having anti-thyroid antibodies in the blood can actually protect older women from the age-induced loss of muscle mass and function - surprising, isn't it? In view of the fact that the TSH levels of elderly patients usually have to rise above 6-7 mU/L before there is an actual decline in T4 below the normal range, the upper limit for TSH in the elderly should be increased (Hadlow. 2013).
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| Sometimes it doesn't even take meds to bring your thyroid hormones back up - assuming they are not rock bottom, that is. You don't believe that? Well, reread the waredownloadsoft Classic "Dietary Thyroid Treatment: Beef, Green Vegetables, Full-Fat Milk & Butter Normalize TSH in Subclinical Hypothyroidism" | read it! |
So what can you do if your TSH is "normal", but you have symptoms? Ask your doctor to test fT3 and fT4 as well and look for one of the following patterns: (1) TSH low, fT4 low(-ish), fT3 low(-ish) → overtraining and/or undereating, (2) TSH normal, fT4 low, fT3 low → subclinical hypothyriodism or autoimmune thyroid disease (test for antibodies, to differentiate) - If your fT3 and fT4 are perfect nothing and neither (1) nor (2) applies, but you still "feel hypo" you probably have read about how "low thyroid is rampant" and "always undiagnosed" at StopTheThyroidMadness.com suffer from "imaginary hypothyroidism" | Comment on FB!
- Biondi, Bernadette. "The normal TSH reference range: what has changed in the last decade?." The Journal of clinical endocrinology and metabolism 98.9 (2013): 3584.
- Fontes, Rosita, et al. "Reference interval of thyroid stimulating hormone and free thyroxine in a reference population over 60 years old and in very old subjects (over 80 years): comparison to young subjects." Thyroid research 6.1 (2013): 1-8.
- Hadlow, Narelle C., et al. "The relationship between TSH and free T4 in a large population is complex and nonlinear and differs by age and sex." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 98.7 (2013): 2936-2943.
- Lewandowski, Krzysztof. "Reference ranges for TSH and thyroid hormones." Thyroid Research 8.Suppl 1 (2015): A17.
- Rodondi, Nicolas, et al. "Subclinical hypothyroidism and the risk of coronary heart disease: a meta-analysis." The American journal of medicine 119.7 (2006): 541-551.
- Spencer, C. A., et al. "National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey III thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH)-thyroperoxidase antibody relationships demonstrate that TSH upper reference limits may be skewed by occult thyroid dysfunction." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 92.11 (2007): 4236-4240.
- Vadiveloo, Thenmalar, et al. "Age-and gender-specific TSH reference intervals in people with no obvious thyroid disease in Tayside, Scotland: the Thyroid Epidemiology, Audit, and Research Study (TEARS)." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 98.3 (2013): 1147-1153.
- Wang, George C., et al. "Thyroid autoantibodies are associated with a reduced prevalence of frailty in community-dwelling older women." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 95.3 (2010): 1161-1168.
Too Much of a Good Thing - Selenium: Little More Than in Many 'Multis' Can Trigger Subclinical Hypothyroidism, Less Selenium (25% of the RDA) Cuts 13% Body Fat in 10 Weeks
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| Three things make this study special #1 it's human study, #2 it was conducted in a metabolic ward and #3 it didn't use potentially toxic Se supplements |
In view of the fact that the mechanism that triggers this side effect for selenium is a bit more straight forward than it is for iodine, I would like to start this new series with the initially mentioned essential trace element.
Now, from previous waredownloadsoft posts on things like zinc or chromium (both may worsen your insulin sensitivity in high doses), you will be well aware that despite being "essential", i.e. it being absolutely necessary to have them in your diet, consuming too much of these "essentials" can and usually will backfire.
In the case of selenium the consequences became most obvious in a 2003 study from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). In said study (Hawkes. 2003b), which was conducted by researchers from the Western Human Nutrition Research Center and Department of Nutrition in Davis, CA, the scientists didn't even have to use copious amounts of supplemental selenium to slow down their subjects' thyroid and have them gain weight.
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| Brazil nuts & selenium: "How much is too much?" A weighty question answered solely based on toxicity, not thyroid hormone metabolism, here. |
As Hawkes and Keim point out, "[t]his difference may be due to the fact that serum T 3 in humans comes mainly by deiodination of T 4 in liver, whereas serum T3 in rats is released mainly preformed from the thyroid" - that's a significant difference, because it implies that the selenium containing deiodinase enzymes that convert T4 to T3 and deactivate T3 are far more critical in man vs. mice / rats. In addition, it may be relevant that most rat studies induced a state of profound selenium deficiency, with glutathione peroxidase activities suppressed by as much as 90%, whereas the mild selenium deficiency in the study aat hand lead to a decrease in plasma glutathione peroxidase activity of only 12% in the low selenium group.
Against that background, it's not really surprising that the high selenium group began to gain while the low selenium group began to lose weight by day 64 (the weight gain is not reflected in in the data in Figure 1, because taken on it's own, the 700g the subjects gained were not significantly; that's in contrast to the inter-group difference with p = 0,001). It did thus take no more than 6 weeks on the high vs. low selenium diet to trigger measurable effects not just on the subjects' metabolism, but also on their body weight; and by day 92, the weight gain / loss in the high vs. low selenium groups was pronounced and uniform enough to be statistically significant.
In that, it's questionable whether excluding high selenium foods from your diet altogether is much better. After all, the significant decrease in body fat was paid for not just by fat loss, but also a 12% reduction in glutathion peroxidase which could mean that your cellular defense system will be impaired, if you follow a low selenium diet for more than just a few weeks (75% lower than the RDA) | Comment on Facebook!
Addendum: What about supplements? In a follow up study, the researchers tested whether the same effects would be seen if they used 300mcg of selenium yeast (Hawkes. 2008). That's much different from the organic selenium in the foods from the study at hand and it did - still surprisingly - not results in a similar reduction in thyroid function (I would like to highlight that there were none of the purported benefits, either). The question whether that's coincidence or has something to do with the different forms of selenium and/or the particular foods used in the study at hand has unfortunately not been answered, yet. It does yet remind you not to freak out over selenium in your diet - even though, I still wouldn't generally recommend supplementation with higher doses of selenium; also because selenium supplementationof 140 or more μg/day to prostate cancer patients may increase risk of prostate cancer mortality (Kenfield. 2015) and previous studies that showed a reduced risk of developing PCA couldn't be replicated (Algotar. 2013).
- Berry, Marla J., and P. Reed Larsen. "The Role of Selenium in Thyroid Hormone Action*." Endocrine reviews 13.2 (1992): 207-219.
- Hawkes, Wayne Chris, Fulya Zeynep Alkan, and Lynn Oehler. "Absorption, distribution and excretion of selenium from beef and rice in healthy North American men." The Journal of nutrition 133.11 (2003a): 3434-3442.
- Hawkes, Wayne Chris, and Nancy L. Keim. "Dietary selenium intake modulates thyroid hormone and energy metabolism in men." The Journal of nutrition 133.11 (2003b): 3443-3448.
- Hawkes, Wayne Chris, et al. "High-selenium yeast supplementation in free-living North American men: no effect on thyroid hormone metabolism or body composition." Journal of trace elements in medicine and biology 22.2 (2008): 131-142.
- Kenfield, Stacey A., et al. "Selenium Supplementation and Prostate Cancer Mortality." Journal of the National Cancer Institute 107.1 (2015): dju360.
- Köhrle, J. "Thyroid hormone deiodination in target tissues--a regulatory role for the trace element selenium?." Experimental and clinical endocrinology 102.2 (1993): 63-89.
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